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The first Idaho Geospatial Committee meeting was held on Friday, October 19,
2001 from 10:00 a.m. to 3:20 p.m., in the East Conference Room of the Joe R.
Williams Bldg, Boise, ID.
CALL TO ORDER, WELCOME
Liza Fox, Chair, welcomed members and others in attendance and called the
meeting to order.
ATTENDANCE
| Members/Designates
Present: |
Absent
Members: |
| Mr. Nathan Bentley, ITRMC Staff |
Mr. Dennis Hill, City of Pocatello |
| Sen. Hal Bunderson, Idaho Senate |
Dr. Piotr Jankowski, University of Idaho |
| Mr. Joe Calderwood, USDA Forest Service |
Mr. Jonathan Perry, Bureau of Disaster Srvcs |
| Ms. Liza Fox, Transportation Dept., Chair |
Mr. Frank Roberts, Coeur d'Alene Tribe |
| Mr. Tracy Fuller, NMD, USGS |
Mr. Bill Yeager, USDI BLM |
| Ms. Diane Holloran, Power Engineers |
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| Mr. Mike McDowell, Kootenai County |
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| Mr. Tony Morse, Dept. of Water Resources |
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| Mr. Frank Mynar, Idaho Power |
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| Mr. Craig Rindlisbacher, Madison Co. and City of
Rexburg |
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| Ms. Carol Silvers, State Library |
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| *Ms. Janet Cheney, Bonneville County |
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| *Ms. Nina Madry, USDI BLM |
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| *Mr. Jim Szpara, Dept. of Environmental Quality |
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| *Ms. Lily Wai, University of Idaho |
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| *Designate |
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| Others
Present: |
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| Mrs. Pam Ahrens, Dept. of Administration |
Ms. Emily Gales, ITRMC Staff |
| Mr. Mike Beaty, USDI BOR |
Mr. Fred Gifford, Maxim Technologies, Inc. |
| Ms. Danielle Bruno, Department of Agriculture |
Mr. Bruce Godfrey, University of Idaho Library |
| Mr. Byron Cochrane, Ada County |
Mr. Dave Gruenhagen, Department of Lands |
| Mr. Rich Elwood, ITRMC Staff |
Ms. Karen LaMotte, State Library |
| Mr. Bill Farnsworth, ITRMC Staff |
Ms. Cindy Lou McDonald, Tax Commission |
| Ms. Donna Fornshell, USDI BOR |
Mr. Randy Rowell, Transportation Department |
| Mr. Don Fournier, ITRMC Staff |
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BACKGROUND / ITRMC WELCOME
Liza Fox, Idaho Transportation Department, explained that GIS
(geographic information systems) coordination activities in Idaho began over
twenty years ago. About two years ago, based on recommendations from ITRMC's GIS
Task Force, state GIS coordinator and federal framework coordinator positions
were created for the state. On April 30, 2001, Governor Dirk Kempthorne signed
an executive order that created the IGC. Liza advised the IGC would use
Executive Order 2001-07 to guide its actions. Liza then introduced Nathan
Bentley, State GIS Coordinator.
Nathan informed Committee members and others present of the December 13-14
IGUM (Idaho Geospatial User's Meeting) to be held at the MK Plaza, Boise,
with the help of the State Tax Commission. Ron Matzner, national FGDC I-Team
Coordinator, is the keynote speaker.
Nathan introduced Pam Ahrens, Director of the Idaho Department of
Administration and Chairman of ITRMC (Information Technology Resource Management
Council). Mrs. Ahrens thanked those in attendance for offering their time and
expertise. The work being done was continuing a philosophy of ITRMC (created by
law in 1996) - to coordinate and work very closely with various levels of
government to utilize taxpayers' information technology assets to the fullest,
she said. Mrs. Ahrens asked Statewide IT Coordinator Rich Elwood to
introduce other members of the ITRMC Staff, a resource for state and
local government. Mr. Elwood introduced Emily Gales, ITRMC Assistant; Bill
Farnsworth, IT Policy Analyst; and Don Fournier, IT Policy Analyst.
INTRODUCTIONS
Liza asked members of the Committee to introduce themselves and speak about
key issues impacting their represented agencies and stakeholder groups.
Tony Morse, Idaho Department of Water Resources (IDWR), noted
networking connectivity was an important issue.
Diane Holloran, Power Engineers (private sector representative),
advised that issues for this stakeholder group were fairly diverse, but stressed
that private sector growth is contingent on a successful diverse GIS community
in the state.
Carol Silvers, Idaho State Library, said that the clearinghouse
concept is very important. She said that making data available to not only
agencies, but to the public at large was something the Library was very
interested in studying.
Nina Madry, alternate for Bill Yeager (federal representative, USDI
Bureau of Land Management), expressed her desire to continue a good working
relationship through sharing data with other GIS professionals.
Joe Calderwood, USDA Forest Service, Intermountain Region, Ogden,
Utah, represents agencies of the US Department of Agriculture. As part of the
IGC, Calderwood's main objectives are framework data, data sharing, data
collaboration, and the acquisition of data.
Tracy Fuller, Idaho's Federal Framework Coordinator (US Geological
Survey), is interested in coordinating work done between federal groups and the
state and local levels to ensure data is available.
Frank Mynar, Idaho Power (private sector representative), advised that
in addition to Diane's issues, one overriding concern is that, as far as GIS is
concerned, the private sector seemed to be on the outside looking in. Frank will
bring forward private sector issues for discussion with IGC members.
Jim Szpara, Idaho Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) (alternate
for Jonathan Perry, Bureau of Disaster Services), advised he had issues with
data quality, IT support, funding support, and clearinghouse issues.
Senator Hal Bunderson, whose district was the largest in the state, is
an ITRMC member. Senator Bunderson informed the Committee that since ITRMC's
inception, the state had moved from a rudimentary direction in IT support to one
of the highest in the nation. The IGC will be an integral part of the
state's future direction. Legislation was needed and the law improved to include
technology language, and Bunderson advised he would do all he could to push
these processes along once recommendations were brought forth.
Lily Wai, Project Director for INSIDE Idaho (alternate for Piotr
Jankowski, University of Idaho), advised her mission as a representative of a
higher education institution was mainly with education, training, data
clearinghouses and providing service to the public.
Mike McDowell, Kootenai County Assessor's Office (representing local
government), advised his primary issues echoed many of those already raised by
other Committee members, and agreed the most important issue to deal with was
data, specifically its accessibility, portability and stability. The need to
more effectively integrate and better utilize data is becoming a big issue at
the county level.
Craig Rindlisbacher, City of Rexburg and Madison County, (representing
local government), advised communication between local governments was critical
to future successes. Local government GIS users had voiced two other issues:
data distribution (liability) and privacy.
Janet Cheney, Bonneville County, alternate for Dennis Hill, City of
Pocatello, (representing local governments), said that cities and counties are
using taxpayer money to create data, would like guidance and direction on
standardized formats to ensure that data could be shared with other levels of
government.
As a representative of state agencies, Liza said, there was a general feeling
among GIS professionals that Idaho codes, rules and regulations they must
operate under did not necessarily reflect the technology and where it is today.
The state agencies would like IGC to look at the Idaho codes and regulations,
and make recommendations to ITRMC on how they could be carried forward. It was
also the understanding of GIS professionals that up to that point, ITRMC really
focused on hardware and software issues in the state, and not on data issues.
Data was a key issue that needed to be addressed by the IGC in the near future.
MISSION STATEMENT AND BYLAWS FOR THE IGC
Executive Order 2001-07 stipulates the IGC will prepare a written and oral
report, including Committee bylaws, to ITRMC by December 31, 2001.
After a review of the draft bylaws, several suggestions were made by
committee members to amend and alter items in the bylaws before adoption.
MOTION TO ACCEPT BYLAWS AS AMENDED
Mike McDowell made a motion to accept the IGC Bylaws as amended, with
ratification of the final product at the next IGC meeting, Carol Silvers
seconded the motion, and the motion passed unanimously.
ITRMC (Information Technology Resource Management Council)
Rich Elwood provided a brief update on ITRMC activities. The legislation that
created ITRMC (a sixteen-member council consisting of legislators and
representatives of the private sector, higher education, and major state
agencies) gave it the authority and responsibility to coordinate enterprise-wide
IT infrastructure, which includes GIS. The Council is charged with developing
standards, policies and guidelines with the goal of simplifying, sharing, and
making government IT more efficient. The ITRMC Staff provides a service to state
agencies by providing research and consulting capabilities. (More information on
ITRMC is available at www2.state.id.us/itrmc/).
The Idaho IT Plan is made up of five opportunities: implement
'one government'; leverage information technology as a strategic asset; provide
secure access and confidentiality; expand participation in digital government;
and recruit and retain a proficient IT workforce. Our ultimate goal is to
bring citizens together and closer to their government; to transform
digital-governance to fit the needs of today's emerging new citizen, one who is
not only a consumer of government services, but also a shareholder of
government, said Elwood. In order to make this happen ITRMC has adopted fifteen
policies, nine standards, and one guideline during the last quarter. To review
these IT policies, standards and guidelines, see: http://www2.state.id.us/itrmc/stateplan/stateplan_index.htm.
ITRMC intends to adopt policies and guidelines regarding geospatial-related
standards, and the Staff is looking forward to recommendations from IGC, said
Elwood.
DEVELOPMENT OF GIS RECOMMENDATIONS
Nathan focused on policies that Rich Elwood had
referred to regarding geospatial-related standards: ITRMC IT Enterprise
Standards 4000, Geospatial Applications.
Category 4100 - references GIS server software,
Category 4110 - applies to software to be loaded on independent (client)
machines,
Category 4200 - addresses the need to identify a standard for data sharing.
The IGC should specify other issues that need to be
addressed with regard to enterprise standards, i.e. remote sensing applications
or global positioning system use.
Currently, there are multiple GIS software being used throughout the state
i.e. ESRI, Autodesk, Intergraph. There needed to be just one state standard,
said Nathan. If that was not the direction the IGC wanted to go, a
recommendation, including explanation, needed to be forwarded to ITRMC for
review. Tony Morse agreed to co-chair a standards subcommittee, with Nathan, to
address this issue.
Mike McDowell inquired as to why one standard application was necessary, as
it might be appropriate to adopt multiple applications, ensuring they would be
capable of transforming the data into a common, accessible, and portable data
type. Also, Craig Rindlisbacher questioned the importance/relevance of
establishing standards. Nathan advised the establishment of standards was
cost-effective for the state, reduced the learning curve for those shifting from
one agency to another, and basically facilitated economics. Joe Calderwood
mentioned his organization operated Intergraph, ESRI and desktop publishing
systems, and each one of those tools possessed particular strengths for
particular applications. The Forest Service had continued to maintain three
different processes within the small unit in which Joe worked, and the Forest
Service had imposed similar pressures to move toward one standard application (ESRI).
He agreed a subcommittee should be formed to address integration of portability
using existing systems, costs and efficiencies. Joe also added that, from
Nathan's introduction, he saw the possibility of the formation of several
subcommittees to address a statewide platform and standards for data. Nathan,
however, envisioned one subcommittee to address all issues that fell under ITRMC
IT Enterprise Standards 4000, i.e. remote sensing applications, GPS (global
positioning software) standards, data standards, etc. The role of such a
subcommittee would be to assist in the development of draft standards for these
areas. Nathan suggested a software standard be prepared for ITRMC review by its
December 7th meeting.
Craig stated that the subcommittee should go beyond the cost issue and look
at the broader benefits to the GIS community.
Joe asserted that the state would have to examine how its GIS data would
integrate with the different data formats other organizations could be using,
regardless of the platform chosen. It was a good starting point to look at how
to build the platform from the data structures up toward the system, he said.
Fred Gifford pointed out that ITRMC standards would not have any implication
on several groups in the GIS community. He advised, though, that the Committee
should be looking at relevant data-level standards to ensure interoperability
between the systems.
Mike advised that data - and how it was moved from one platform to another -
was the primary issue. Also, it was helpful to adopt standards in order to
choose a direction to take in order to most effectively use resources already in
place. He inquired as to the effect/impact of establishing a standard, and what
it would mean to an agency not currently using it. Nathan responded that ITRMC
has established a two-year implementation timeline and also an exception
process for state agencies.
Senator Bunderson added that technology was clearly migrating, and so if a
reasonable objective were carefully thought out, people would migrate to it over
time. Of course, if there were credible reasons not to take action, an agency's
exception request would be considered. Nathan added statewide policies,
standards and guidelines allowed for understanding by other entities working
with state agencies of how best to work with the state.
MOTION TO ESTABLISH IGC GEOSPATIAL APPLICATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE
Tony Morse moved and Nathan Bentley seconded a motion to establish the IGC
Geospatial Applications Subcommittee to address how to approach issues
pertaining to ITRMC IT Enterprise Standards 4000, Geospatial Applications, with
Tony Morse and Nathan Bentley as Co-chairs, and the motion passed unanimously.
Any recommendations for the Geospatial Applications Subcommittee should be
forwarded to Tony Morse (208 327-7997, tmorse@idwr.state.id.us).
TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP (TWG) UPDATES
Tracy Fuller advised that in the draft IGC bylaws, six of the eight
basic federal data framework teams were identified: cadastral, geodetic control,
hydrography, landuse/landcover, ortho-imagery, and transportation. He gave a
brief account of current activities of the TWGs.
Ortho-imagery TWG: preliminary meetings have been held; Bruce
Godfrey (UI) and Bill Kramber (IDWR), acting co-chairs. INSIDE Idaho
is developing some nice ways to serve and distribute any kind of satellite
imagery, including LANDSAT and SPOT 10-meter data, and full state coverage from
several years should be available soon.
With regard to the one-meter DOQ (Digital Ortho-photo Quadrangles) program,
there was a large section of Idaho where there was no one-meter data. Federal
funding for the basic NAPP (National Aerial Photography Program), which was
intended to support ortho-photography development, is decreasing. The question,
then, is how to fund and produce imagery for DOQs in the future. Joe Calderwood
added that, due to different processes being introduced into the NAPP, another
cycle of NAPP imagery as states have known in the past (where federal agencies
purchase imagery for union states in a seven-year cycle) might not be seen
again. The last imagery cycle for the State of Idaho was in 1998. The Farm
Service Agency, a major contributor, had pulled its funding out, he said.
The IGC needs to evaluate funding sources it could come up with to lure these
federal dollars into the state for its photography effort. The USFS is in the
process of obtaining ortho-photography control, and it would provide the ground
control to the state. The USFS could also provide production of the ortho-photography;
what was lacking was the imagery. Perhaps a subcommittee could look at this
issue, said Calderwood. Liza advised it was anticipated that the chairs of the
TWGs would make presentations based on proposals regarding collaborative
purchases to benefit all in the GIS community. Joe added that some of the
programs would need local, state and federal partnerships to identify a large
area and provide service to the entire state.
Mike McDowell advised that Kootenai County had a large area covered in
6" pixel resolution of color ortho-imagery (updated this year), and
wondered if it was possible to leverage existing ortho-imagery such as this.
Liza advised the issue of charging for licensed data also needed to be looked
at, and encouraged members to participate in all the TWGs to address these
issues.
Transportation TWG: currently chaired by Randy Rowell (ITD).
This group has been meeting on a regular basis, and there were some good pilot
projects through ITD looking at integrating county and state transportation
data. The Bureau of Transportation Standards and the US Census Bureau were in
collaboration to try to develop a data content model and geospatial accuracy
standards. According to the US Census Bureau, with support from USGS and Bureau
of Transportation Standards, a very strong push would be made to collect local
data for use in modern TIGER/Line® data by 2006. This would be an opportunity
for the IGC to push its data up into those agencies. The return benefit would be
that the census information integrates with other state data.
Hydrography TWG: currently co-chaired by Linda Davis and Sandy
Thiel (IDWR). Tracy said that the USFS was pouring millions of dollars into the
national hydro-data set model. Tracy believes there will be full basin-wide
coverage for the state within two-three years.
Cadastral and Geodetic Control TWG, currently co-chaired by
Dave Williamson (Kootenai County) and Tom Spenser (BLM), has been meeting on a
regular basis. Last year, they developed a draft cadastral plan after attending
the Cadastral Data and Policy Forum sponsored by the Western Governors'
Association and the US BLM. The plan was presented to ITRMC in December 2000.
Landuse/landcover TWG: Bill Kramber (IDWR) is acting chair.
There is no current activity.
There is no TWG for elevation at this time. Yet, full ten-meter
coverage of the entire state would be available by the end of 2002, said Tracy.
A lot of interest had been expressed in governmental units, but
there had been no meetings regarding such. With homeland defense becoming more
critical, a lot of the districts usually not thought of may become very critical
i.e. water and sewer, zoning, emergency, fire, said Tracy.
Schedules and agendas for TWG meetings will be posted on ITRMC's
IGC web site.
MOTION TO RATIFY CURRENT TWG CHAIRS
Diane Holloran moved and Mike McDowell seconded a motion to ratify the
following IGC Technical Working Group chairs: imagery - Bruce Godfrey and Bill
Kramber; transportation - Randy Rowell; hydrography - Linda Davis and Sandy
Thiel; Cadastral and Geodetic Control - Dave Williamson and Tom Spencer; and
landuse/landcover - Bill Kramber. The motion passed unanimously.
Gene Thorly (USGS, Seattle), has organized a meeting in Portland on November
14, 2001, and invited members of the three GIS councils/committees of
Washington, Oregon and Idaho. The USGS is offering funding for up to ten IGC
members or designees; the IGC would be given thirty minutes on the agenda.
Several subjects would be discussed, including coordination among states in the
northwest region, the I-Team Initiative (including financial elements), and
data-serving. The Geodata Alliance would also be represented. Those interested
should contact Liza (208 334-8222, lifox@itd.state.id.us).
GEOSPATIAL DATA CLEARINGHOUSE DISCUSSION
Liza asked Nathan to lead the discussion on a statewide geospatial data
clearinghouse. Nathan noted that there are a number of great sites available in
the state: INSIDE Idaho, various IMS (Internet map server) sites (IDWR, DEQ).
Access Idaho
Nathan introduced Bill Farnsworth, ITRMC IT Policy Analyst, to speak
about accessidaho.org. Bill
explained that accessidaho.org was the
state's homepage and beyond, an electronic front door to on-line government
services for the citizens of Idaho. Accessidaho.org
was designed as a one-stop shop, and links from the site went beyond state Web
sites - an enterprise-wide solution. The structure was designed around function
- not around how government was structured - and went across federal, state and
local boundaries. The Access Idaho project was a public/private partnership, and
the winning bidder was Idaho Information Consortium (IIC), which was wholly
owned by the National Information Consortium (NIC). NIC was also involved with
about twelve other state portals, which was helpful for the development of new
on-line projects in Idaho. IIC had just one customer, the State of Idaho. They
were conveniently located in downtown Boise, and all equipment was maintained at
that location. The site had been up and running for about a year and a half, and
the Access Idaho network infrastructure had already underwent two major
upgrades. The portal was self-funded (no up-front costs) and transaction-based
(convenience/transaction fees used to fund it). Bill is the chair of the state
oversight committee, the Access Idaho Steering Committee.
Basic guidelines were being developed to assist agencies with web page
development/design. Access Idaho also hoped to provide a template for use by
agencies, if desired. Bill said that Access Idaho would entertain
recommendations from the IGC.
Request for Information
Nathan then requested information on the different data-sharing sites
available. Lily Wai advised INSIDE Idaho as a three-year project was
nearing its end. There is a permanent GIS Specialist position in place at the
University of Idaho, but funding for the project ends this year. Servers for
INSIDE Idaho are located at the University of Idaho Library. Its audience
includes the general public, local, state and federal agencies, K-12, and higher
education. Lily said that INSIDE Idaho works as a facilitator for the
distribution of data and services from different agencies with a seamless
interface, along with providing technical support. They also hope to provide the
core datasets, such as base maps. Lily introduced Bruce Godfrey ("the
backbone of the project") and Fred Gifford (Consultant, Maxim Technologies,
Inc.).
Bruce Godfrey explained INSIDE Idaho was recently involved in the
redistricting project with the Commission on Redistricting. Those involved with
the INSIDE Idaho project had also worked to make LANDSAT 7 and LANDSAT 5 data
available on the site, where UI and IDWR had contributed images. (This
information was also available through any UI Library system catalogue.) They
were working with Idaho NRCS (Natural Resources Conservation Service) to make
the thirty-one state-certified digital soil surveys available for access. In
November, UI will obtain a hardware upgrade for the INSIDE Idaho project, which
was expected to dovetail with an interactive GIS application on the site.
Fred Gifford mentioned he understood the clearinghouse referenced in
Executive Order 2001-07 would be the distributed clearinghouse for as many
groups as possible to share data based on a common standard. He and others were
very interested in the INSIDE Idaho project being a service for facilitating
that sharing process, providing technical support for setting up the technology
and adhering to the data-sharing standards, including: the essential metadata
standard; and a new web mapping standard (for facilitating maps over the
Internet) being promoted by FGDC (Federal Geographic Data Committee), USGS, and
OGC (Open GIS Consortium). UI received a grant to build a web mapping system
that adheres to that standard. The system allows the integration of maps with
metadata through a search engine, and would bring up an interactive map of the
data. Also, data from multiple servers could be combined to form one map in a
web browser, a powerful and important concept. Jeff Mathews, LCSC (Lewis-Clark
State College), received a metadata training grant; six to eight metadata
training sessions would be provided throughout the state in 2002.
To be a part of a clearinghouse, standards that must be complied with
include a search engine standard (Z39.50 - US national standard defining a
protocol for computer- to-computer information retrieval that was first adopted
in 1988) and the FGDC metadata standard. These two standards could now be
integrated with the new web mapping standard. There were already portals in
place allowing the search of multiple clearinghouse nodes. There could be
another portal optimized for searching only Idaho data, and the FGDC and others
were releasing a lot of new technologies to facilitate the searching process.
There is a national portal available for searching multiple clearinghouse nodes
using one search criteria. The problem in Idaho, said Gifford, was that INSIDE
Idaho was the only spatial information data engine site adhering to the
standards.
The long-term role of INSIDE Idaho is as a service to help people adhere to
federal standards and implement the technology for data sharing. INSIDE Idaho
could also serve data for those who may not wish to invest in those tools
locally.
Dave Gruenhagen, Department of Lands (Lands), advised Lands was
working on developing an IMS site. Lands' data is currently available through a
map objects interface.
IDWR had established an IMS site. Tony Morse advised IDWR data was
also available via the state FTP (file transfer protocol) site and a web
interface. A number of ArcIMS applications were also running, including one
hosted for the Idaho OnePlan (Department of Agriculture).
Subcommittee Proposal
Nathan has received several requests as to where state digital data could be
accessed. A subcommittee needed to be organized to address where the state site
should be located and what information should be included. Nathan suggested that
the subcommittee look at the clearinghouse function, interaction with existing
organizations, directions, and representation on accessidaho.org.
MOTION TO ESTABLISH IGC CLEARINGHOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE
Tony Morse moved and Lily Wai seconded a motion to establish the IGC
Clearinghouse Subcommittee to identify the role and functions of - and promote -
a statewide GIS clearinghouse (in accordance with Executive Order 2001-07 and
IGC Bylaws), with Frank Roberts and Carol Silvers as Co-chairs, and the motion
passed unanimously.
Jim Szpara and Lily Wai expressed interest in serving on the Clearinghouse
Subcommittee.
EMERGING ISSUES
Five-year Tax Commission IT Plan
Cindy Lou McDonald (GIS Manager, Idaho State Tax Commission) explained
that she was approached by the state Tax Commissioners to address the issue of how
GIS could be used throughout the Commission. She added that Tax's GIS
department was staffed with four people, with a very limited role in the
organization. McDonald composed a proposal of a five-year plan, starting in July
2002. The commissioners decided the idea had merit, but the approval of the IGC
and ITRMC was needed. The state Tax Commission was finishing up a three-year
project to convert all of its tax software into an SQL (Structured Query
Language - a database query language that was adopted as an industry standard in
1986) server database. In theory, data analysis in the Tax Commission should be
easier than ever because one [SQL] database would be shared. However, there was
a 'hole' in that database, she said. Further, there was no available statewide
database of updated digital private land - the most important land from the
Commission's point of view because that was where the most people lived and it
generated most of the tax dollars in Idaho. Because there was no private land
mapped or available in the state, Tax's ability to conduct statewide analysis
was hampered. Data could not be tracked any finer than the ZIP code level. In
addition, it was not possible to locate businesses or people affected by a city
boundary, an urban renewal area, an Indian reservation, an enterprise zone, or a
tax code area. That geography was critical for Tax to be able to link existing
databases together in order to perform data mining. That surface ownership was
important and cost millions of dollars to build. However, the counties had
already invested millions of dollars and thousands of hours over the last ten
years to begin building a digital database.
Therefore, Tax was proposing a partnership using the Internet and/or an
intranet. Tax, in cooperation with other state agencies, would be able to
warehouse cadastral and private parcel data for use by the counties and state
agencies for internal purposes. As an extension of that, perhaps some kind of
restricted use by the public could be allowed in the future. The main concern,
though, was that the Commission be able to function as an agency. If this was
done, efforts and software would be streamlined, counties would save money as
they continued to build a private land database, and state agencies would avoid
any duplication of effort, as all these entities needed the parcel data. It was
anticipated there would be one source for maintained cadastral and parcel data.
One responsibility of the Commission's GIS team was to train and assist
county assessors and mappers in keeping their plat maps updated. The Commission
offered a number of classes, was in daily contact with a variety of counties,
and regularly traveled to counties to assist with parcel mapping efforts. The
Tax Commission had the largest financial revenue and address database in the
state, had some capability to coordinate land database, and was interested in
investing in GIS to correct the errors in the state tax code areas/districts and
county taxation databases (there was no way of checking its tax code maps and
districts against the parcel database to ensure the correct people were paying
taxes to the correct districts) - fair and equitable taxation. This would also
allow the Commission to search for businesses and persons not currently
benefiting from circuit breaker and other tax relief programs, and to meet
federal regulations for address and tax code searching, especially in the area
of cell phone taxation. It would also assist the legislature (members of the
legislature often approached the Tax Commission with questions regarding the
financial impact of proposed bills on the state and citizens), and streamline
the Commission's collection and auditing methods (collectors would be assigned
as specialists in specific collection areas instead of by ZIP code).
Some of the steps proposed in the five-year plan were: to create a committee
to address data standards; to decide what those standards were; and to design
methodology for resolving any conflicts in the data received, for filling holes
in areas with no digital parcel data, and for how to go about maintaining those
updates. A geocoding (the process of searching database records for addresses,
ZIP Codes and other geographic information, and assigning latitude and longitude
coordinates) engine would need to be built to assign geographic points with X/Y
coordinates to all spatial data in the Tax Commission. The Commission would need
to be gathering county, spatial, and tabular data, geodetic control, ortho-photography,
and any other data that needed to be gathered. A clearinghouse to serve the data
would need to be built. For continual improvements, a staff would need to be
assembled to begin designing the applications and procedures, (the parcel land
database changes every day). The Commission hoped that, as the geodetic control
was improved, the parcels would also move with the control, and a system would
need to be built for that. A team to design applications to assist different
departments (income tax, sales tax, corporate tax) to use the database would
also be needed. Another part of the proposal was the ability to conduct training
and presentations on the system throughout state agencies, state research staff,
legislators, and county staff.
The privacy issue was a very large one for the counties, and at the August
2001 assessor's conference, the mapping committee had assembled a subcommittee
to deal with privacy and data sharing issues. All of those issues were still
ahead of the Tax Commission. Ownership information was needed to make it all
work. The Commission's legal staff was then researching a data sharing
agreement, and preliminary research had indicated that a relationship between
the counties and state agencies might allow for the counties to release parcel
data with what was deemed critical information for confidential, internal use by
state agencies (without a requirement to also disseminate that information to
the public).
The Tax Commission was moving forward with further commitments to the project
in the GenTaxâ [the first commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) software designed
specifically for revenue jurisdictions] arena. The week of October 8th, the
Commission's IT Steering Committee and ESRI prioritized GIS throughout the Tax
Commission as a high-priority project for a new programming interface between
GenTaxâ and ESRI GIS products on the SQL server geodatabase housed at Tax. Work
on this interface and writing the programs for GIS to be including throughout
the Commission was expected to begin in the spring of 2002. If the five-year
plan were to be approved by that time, the soonest the plan could proceed would
be July 2003. An investment in the GIS partnership with the counties would reap
benefits for the Tax Commission for quality control to meet federal regulations
and as an effective research tool.
Discussion
Tracy Fuller noted that, at the federal level, wildfire implications were a
big issue being looked at. Limited access to parcel data by fire
managers/professionals (in addition to counties and state agencies) should also
be considered. This would allow for federal support and potential funding.
With regard to privacy, Mike McDowell advised of an existing paradox in Idaho
law: one section of code stated that all parcel data/records were public
records; another section of code stated that it was a misdemeanor, finable by
$1,000 per occurrence, to release parcel data in any form that would allow an
automated search to provide addresses and/or phone numbers for any type of
solicitation purpose. Mike agreed that parcel data was critical information for
many reasons, and was something that had to be maintained in the assessor's
office by law.
Craig Rindlisbacher posed a question of whether a state agency was required
to release such information. According to preliminary research performed by the
Commission's legal staff, under the Freedom of Information Act or any other, the
Commission would not be required to disseminate the data if it was used for
internal use by the state agencies.
Lily Wai mentioned county and tabular data could be provided on the Internet,
but not data pertaining to personal property. Byron Cochran (Ada County)
advised it was decided at Ada County to provide property addresses on the
Internet, with no indication as to whether they were owned or occupied. Outside
of Idaho, owner names were provided on the Internet, but were not searchable.
Danielle Bruno, Department of Agriculture, noted this might be a case
where the law had not caught up with the technology.
Cindy Lou McDonald had visited thirty-nine of the forty-four counties, and
had received about ninety percent consensus that they had no problem sharing
parcel data with the Tax Commission for the purpose of improving Idaho's tax
code maps and districts. (It was yet to be seen as to whether the counties
approved of the Tax Commission sharing the information with other state
agencies.) She did suspect, though, that some legislation was needed with regard
to the privacy issue.
The Tax Commission was not looking at mapping the parcels for the counties,
but was interested in setting up a way to distribute the information through a
clearinghouse. Mike McDowell suggested there was room within this model to work
through a portal and serve a lot of data; others may need to have a warehouse.
MOTION TO REQUEST THAT THE CADASTRAL TWG MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO IGC
REGARDING THE IDAHO STATE TAX COMMISSION'S FIVE-YEAR PLAN
Mike McDowell moved and Janet Cheney seconded a motion to request a
recommendation be brought forth by the IGC Cadastral Technical Working Group
with regard to the Idaho State Tax Commission's five-year IT plan, and the
motion passed unanimously.
IT/GIS Integration
Craig Rindlisbacher believes one of the challenges to making GIS useful in
local governments is communication between GIS professionals and the local
governments they work for. Up to this point, there has been no forum for
dealing with that communication, he said. Though there had been several attempts
(technical support staff from the Tax Commission, Assessor's Mapping Committee,
regional groups, annual URISA conference, IMS sites) to overcome the problem,
each had fallen short of a comprehensive, sustained forum tied to other
coordination efforts. The second group of issues that was really vexing and
troublesome to the local governments was the privacy concern and the related
data access and distribution issues, said Craig. This issue was very
complex, not understood and needed to be driven at the policy level. He
suggested the development of a white paper or subcommittee to address the issue.
Lastly, Craig spoke to IT integration. He defined 'IT' as a way of thinking,
using open architecture, non-proprietary systems, relational database
principles, etc, and felt it necessary to integrate IT principles into GIS,
especially at the local level.
As an example he described the following: By state statute, Idaho counties
were required to identify and subdivide a parcel when it had undergone a fifth
split. Planning and zoning departments were taking care of that, but needed to
know when that fifth split happened. As it stood, there was no automated way in
taxation systems to deal with this. Hand drawn maps were used in the past to
determine the number of splits a parcel had, and in the current system of
attributes, there was no way of tracking what was going on. Part of the problem
was that it was a multi-layered operation, and the GIS data structure had to be
changed to maintain history. Local governments needed ways of dealing with those
kinds of day-to-day problems, and Craig saw a solution to this issue in the new
geodatabase model. GIS professionals needed to educate themselves on IT
issues/principles, he said. An understanding of these issues is difficult when
approached in a piecemeal way. He felt that the formation of the IGC is a
positive step toward dealing with the needed coordination.
Workflow Study
Mike McDowell (Chief Deputy Assessor, Kootenai County) spoke of a workflow
study being conducted by Kootenai County. The County Assessors' office is
charged by law with maintaining one of the largest land databases that related
to all property characteristics (name, owner, address, structure and land use in
place, size of parcel, amount of frontage, road access, etc.) that existed
throughout Idaho.
Mike provided information on systems in use at Kootenai County. Kootenai
County began in 1980 with a system imported from Oregon that has been modified
in-house over the years to meet both internal and statutory needs. The hardware
was upgraded in the mid-1990's and is still in use for the county's primary
assessment and tax administration systems. Parts for the mini-computer are no
longer made (since around 1996).
The county also houses a fairly developed PC-based GIS system, which has been
developed over the past seven years between the Assessor's Office, the Planning
Department and the GIS Division. Regarding internal IT Integration with GIS,
Mike advised Kootenai County's three-person GIS Division functioned effectively
(and budgetarily) under the county Information Systems (IS) Department. In terms
of practice, they are distributed based upon need. At this point, no conflict
between the groups had been seen.
In 1998, Kootenai County formed a GIS consortium with most major cities
within the county, two utilities (Avista and Kootenai Electric Cooperative),
University of Idaho, and the Coeur d'Alene Tribe. Panhandle Area Council Of
Governments was used as a facilitator. A great deal of information is now shared
across agency boundaries. The cities adopted the county's parcel maps as the
basis for mapping city properties, and now could have access to downloaded name
and address information. This allowed an immediate efficiency to be gained, and
showed that data sharing can be facilitated between government agencies.
Also in use is a PC-based imaging system (PaperClip software). All of the
county's assessment records are now digital images stored on a laser-disk
jukebox, with access via the internal network. The county also uses ProVal, a
PC-based Computer Assisted Mass Appraisal (CAMA)software package.
The county's internal NT-based network provides support for the ProVal,
mapping/GIS and scanning applications. An HP (Hewlett-Packard) system is used
for the county's financial information and the Recorder's database for recorded
documents, whereas a PICK Operating System is used on the McDonnel Douglas
minicomputer for assessment and tax administration systems.
In order for the county to migrate to an updated system for assessment and
tax administration, and to identify needs for linking data between systems, the
county needs to identify workflow processes, and document them in a way that
could be used as base documentation for analysis of replacement systems, or the
development of a new system. The data itself (of course) is the most critical
piece of the system; how to secure it, ensure others can use it, how to
facilitate use and coordination with other departments, etc.
Once department-by-department documentation is completed, the workflow
processes of the other departments will be analyzed as a group to identify and
assess common and disparate needs that the new system will have to satisfy.
Options/alternatives will then be determined. One option may be to partner with
the Tax Commission - Tax is considering a proposal made by GenTax to devise a
system that would support those counties in which the Commission currently
provides IBM AS400 system support (assessment taxes only). Mike felt the timing
was very good for Kootenai County to perform this kind of base system analyses
in order to re-engineer its direction and to best optimize its resources.
Kootenai County needs information from state and federal agencies, said Mike.
The county also has some fairly accurate information that would most likely
benefit state and federal agencies, as well as the organizations currently
exchanging information. The county is very proud of the quality of its
information in terms of parcel boundaries. The conversion of the parcel maps
from scanned image files to AutoCAD files is approximately 96% complete. Once
complete, the information will then be converted from AutoCad (lines) to a shape
file format (polygons) that is an open-file format.
Consistent with the State Tax Commission GIS proposal, Mr. McDowell hopes
that the county will be able to transfer parcel and tax code area boundary
information electronically to the State Tax Commission, and the STC can then
conduct quality control checks, as a way to reduce redundancy.
Mike felt the timing was very good for Kootenai County to perform this kind
of base system analyses in order to re-engineer its direction and to best
optimize its resources.
Discussion
Craig Rindlisbacher and Marilyn Rasmussen (Chair, Idaho Association of
Counties' Technology Team) had spoken with Cindy Lou McDonald regarding the Tax
Commission funding a workflow study on how GIS data could and should be used and
moved through the counties, Craig said. The initial reaction they had received
from the Tax Commission was that the study would be very similar to McDonald's
mandate, and the Commission was charged with taxation and assessment. Yet, Cindy
Lou did not feel they would receive support for funding to do such an effort
through her staff.
Liza believes the issue was much broader than just GI Committee issues, and
that it should be addressed at an ITRMC level. She recommended Mike McDowell
give a similar presentation to ITRMC to discuss the need for a county workflow
study. Mike mentioned the assessors had worked with Senator Hal Bunderson on
occasion, providing him with reports/queries of data for legislative use and he
agreed to talk with Nathan regarding an ITRMC presentation.
Federal Standards and Compliance
Joe Calderwood presented a copy of Presidential Executive Order 12906
(Coordinating Geographic Data Acquisition and Access: The National Spatial Data
Infrastructure) signed by President Clinton on April 11, 1994.
Joe stated that data compatibility is a very big issue, and the fact that
Idaho's GIS professionals were coordinating amongst themselves to create data
and cooperatively reproduce what was important. He added that it was essential
for the IGC to ensure instruments were in place whereas to collaboratively
produce and share data. The federal community had created some framework layers:
elevation, hydrography, geodetic control, cadastral, transportation, government
units, and digital ortho-imagery. The seven standard framework themes were
presented by the FGDC. The Forest Service also approved a list of core layers:
roads and trails, water, land survey, terrestrial topography, vegetation,
wildlife, range, cultural properties, recreation, and fire.
The Office of Management and Budget has taken a look at how data is being
acquired government-wide and duplication of efforts, etc. In response to these
efforts, the OMB set up the I-Team (geospatial implementation plan) initiative,
an opportunity for states to present plans of how basic framework data themes
were being collected and shared. This initiative is being promoted state by
state. Joe presented the Utah Framework Implementation Team
Plan. Utah's plan
is being used as a template for other states. Joe read some outline items from
the document, and promoted the structured organization of Utah's plan. He
proposed the outline be used as a charter to produce an outline for each of IGCs
TWGs.
Joe suggested that an MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) should included
Idaho's themes (when identified), as well as other issues: financial, standards
and a clearinghouse. As a federal partner, a document such as the MOU was very
essential to his agency, and indicated authorization to work within the state.
Also, it could lead to - and be tied into - an I-Team, and be an instrument to
enable the creation of an Idaho framework implementation plan.
Nathan advised Ron Matzner had been contacted regarding Idaho's desire to
participate in the I-Team Initiative.
Joe requested the Committee adopt the eight standard framework themes
developed by the FGDC, and work toward the development of a statewide plan for
framework geographic data themes. Tracy Fuller supported the idea of the
development of an implementation team plan for each Technical Working Group for
IGC review. Joe advised Idaho's adoption of the FGDCs standard themes would make
life easier for those in the federal community. Randy Rowell said he had looked
over the FGDC transportation theme, that it was a great minimum beginning
standard, and that the IGC should at least meet these minimum FGDC standards.
Joe suggested a motion to request the TWGs address the development of framework
themes using I-Team structure.
MOTION TO ADOPT UTAH FRAMEWORK IMPLEMENTATION TEAM PLAN OUTLINE
Craig Rindlisbacher moved and Diane Holloran seconded a motion to adopt the
theme outline section of the Utah Framework Implementation Team Plan, and the
motion passed unanimously.
Migration of IDTM (Idaho Transverse Mercator) to NAD83
Tony Morse offered information on the conversion of NAD27 to NAD83. There
were a number of reasons for the conversion:
- consistency - federal agencies were required to use NAD83; 44 of the 50 US
states were required by law to use NAD83, including Montana and Oregon; a piece
of Idaho code required surveyors in Idaho to use NAD83;
- original intent of Wayne Valentine , LS, PE, creator of IDTM - In Valentine's
A Plane Coordinate System for Geographic Information in Idaho,
where IDTM was first described, he intended it to be based on NAD83 (NAD27 was
used due to lack of available NAD83 data);
- provisions in Idaho code - Title 55, Chapter 17 Coordinate System of Land
Description applied to
surveyors; and
- improvements in the NAD83 datum versus NAD27.
So far, a lot had been said about data, data integration, and consistency.
Said Tony, if we are going to have data that fits together (from the largest
scale to the smallest scale), some people's data needed to be changed. Since the
surveyors were required by law to use NAD83, their data would not be changed.
Therefore, Tony proposed that the IGC recommended INSIDE Idaho provide
conversion services for state and federal agencies and the private sector. The
benefits included: a significant reduction in the burden on agencies to make the
conversion; increased government efficiency (the conversion would be performed
in a reasonable timeframe, redundant processing would be reduced); prompt
availability of on-line conversion data; clean-up of state agency data
directories; and consistent processing performed on all data sets. Disadvantages
would include a lot of work for INSIDE Idaho, the need for all the data to be
copied to some kind of medium, and unanticipated events.
Cindy Lou McDonald advised another part of the Idaho code specified the
projection to the state plane. There was discussion on the work involved by
INSIDE Idaho to make the conversions. Fred Gifford recommended a subcommittee be
formed to look at the issue (including the conversion of data and technical
support by INSIDE Idaho) and make recommendations. First, he said, a statewide
standard (NAD83) should be adopted. Though, state laws pertaining to surveyors
could not be ignored, said Liza. There was more discussion on survey data and
projection.
Frank Mynar advised Idaho Power adopted a variation of the IDTM (Idaho Power
Transverse Mercator) as its standard. The difference was Idaho Power's area of
interest included parts of Oregon, and the IPTM did not use the metric system.
He advised if the state moved to the NAD83 standard, Idaho Power would most
likely have no reservations to do so, as well. However, the conversion would be
done internally.
Nathan noted perhaps conversion work should be done by a contractor, rather
than be done at the University of Idaho. There was more discussion on this. As a
private sector representative, Diane Holloran advised she had no problem with
the work being done by INSIDE Idaho.
MOTION TO ESTABLISH IDTM CONVERSION SUBCOMMITTEE
Lily Wai moved and Tony Morse seconded a motion to establish an AdHoc
subcommittee to devise a recommendation for funding the Idaho Transverse
Mercator conversion project, with Lily Wai as Chair, and the motion passed
unanimously.
NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) State/Local/Tribal (SLT)
Initiative
Tony Morse said there was money available through NASA's SLT Initiative. The
purpose was several-fold: to get NASA benefits to the SLT governments; to
develop the civil remote sensing community; to transfer technology to SLT
governments; to stimulate the use of commercial remote sensing data; and to
coordinate SLT remote sensing activities with federal activities. The idea was
to develop an operational capability - either in the private sector or somewhere
within government - stemming from the grant's purpose, whatever that might be,
and to embark on some kind of self-funding remote sensing activity within SLT
governments. A total of about five million dollars was available to be
distributed among several groups, and the grants continued for three years.
Initially, an abstract needed to be submitted for consideration for a grant. If
NASA accepted the abstract, a proposal would be requested. The first-round
notification was October 2001. The second-round announcement of accepted
abstracts would possibly occur in November 2001. IDWR and UI received a similar
grant in 1999. Bonneville County (in partnership with UI, BSU and ISU) had
recently received one of NASA's SLT grants. The Coeur d'Alene Tribe also
submitted an application, of which the status was not known.
Tony said that NASA preferred to focus on projects that encompassed a variety
of organizations (different levels of government, private sector) with a common
interest and need to be addressed. Information on these grants can be found at http://research.hq.nasa.gov/code_y/nra/current/BAA-01-OES-01/index.html.
CURRENT PROJECTS / COLLABORATION
SPOT Satellite Image Purchase
Nathan explained the state had the opportunity (due to the SPOT Image
purchased in 2000) to do an add-on purchase, which would include data (2.5m
resolution) that should be available via the new SPOT 5 satellite being launched
in 2002. Nathan is seeking agency funding support for the statewide purchase. If
ordered by December 31, 2001, panchromatic imagery would cost about $65,000 for
the entire state (a discount of over 50%). Full delivery would occur in the fall
of 2003, and that is when payment would be due. Anyone interested in
participating should contact Nathan (208 332-1879, nbentley@adm.state.id.us).
ADJOURNMENT
As there was no other new business to come before the Committee, Liza thanked
those in attendance and adjourned the meeting at 3:20 p.m. The next Idaho
Geospatial Committee meeting is scheduled for February 2002.
Respectfully submitted,
Emily Gales
ITRMC Assistant
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